Thanks for #TeamVax, CDC!

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Written by Levi Quackenboss

CDC have you done lost your mind?  What were the big brains in Atlanta thinking when they decided that the largest public health organization in the nation needed to stoop to meme-speak?

Let’s take a look at the meme that my tax dollars paid for. You’ve got your racially ambiguous doting mother with her tiny baby boy who’s clearly already had one round of vaccines because his bulging forehead circumference is in the 99th percentile.  It’s nice to see vaccine-injured babies represented.

racially ambiguous mother

So, you’re saying that vaccinating leads to a “safe” and “healthy” baby, is that right?  Liability-free and unavoidably unsafe vaccines given in greater quantity than any other time in history and directly correlating with the largest pediatric chronic illness crises our country has ever seen are safe and healthy?  This is the best you can do?  I wish you luck, I really do, but just like every other pressure tactic to emerge in recent years, my guess is that you’re doomed to fail.  Someone at Emory University is going to get a $10 million grant to do a study that announces your poorly designed and visually unappealing government memes caused vaccination rates to drop even further.

Let me break it down for you.  You are the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.  As far as 95% of America knows, you are infallible.  Why do you need an ad campaign if you’re infallible?  You don’t.  When was the last time you saw a Rolls Royce commercial?  Never.  They don’t advertise.   They don’t have to. They’re infallible.

So why are you advertising?  Here’s my guess:  because you don’t have the facts on your side and you know it.  You’ve got a whistleblower admitting that you’ve manipulated your studies for decades, and your next natural step is to attempt to manipulate the public with advertising because nothing is real in your world.

But guess what you’ve ended up doing on your little joyride with my tax dollars?  You’ve legitimized your opposition, so thank you for that.  One doesn’t advertise unless their competitor is a real contender for their job.  Do you see NASA responding to flat-Earthers?  Do you see #TeamSphere memes on any of their Facebook pages?  No, you don’t.  Flat-Earthers don’t have NASA quaking in their boots.

How about instead of attempting to divide parents even further than they’re already divided– and instead of sending the message that we’re either with you or we’re dangerous– you step up and address the concerted effort your scientists have made to dilute and whitewash the negative results of your studies?  Is that so crazy?  Will the world spin off its axis?

Because you know what team I’m on?  #TeamKid.  #TeamHealth.  #TeamInformedConsent.  Anyone can make a meme.  It takes a truly trusted public organization to admit when they’ve screwed up.  Until then, I’m on #TeamWhistleblower.

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  6. Typical guvment bureaucratic silliness. They already have credibility with the sheeple. Tax dollars, yes, but chump change compared to the gazillions the NIH has already pissed away.

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  8. That picture makes it look like that the mother is thanking you for her vaccine injured child. Get real. That is a disgusting thing to encourage.

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  16. Don’t have the facts on their side? How is the weather on that planet of yours?
    Informed consent is fine, but how about not scaremongering and exaggerating claims of vaccine injury, and devaluing the incredible contribution to the decline of many diseases that vaccines have already had? Enjoying your immunity to polio and MMR? Why don’t you Google the “resurgence of disease due to lack of vaccination?” Or will you claim ALL OF THOSE articles and sources are “manipulating” studies? If a child has a documented sensitivity to vaccines, that is one thing. But if a parent is just being one of those paranoid freaks who relies on everyone else’s kids’ herd immunity because of some debunked bogus study, or worse, because they feel they need SOMETHING to “blame” a child’s disability on , then they’re just dicks. Because there are a few who can’t get vaccines for actual legitimate reasons and anti-vaxers put those people at risk.
    And, seriously? That baby is vaccine injured because he has a large head? Who gave you your MD or PhD in physiology? Medicine? Seems like you got the “quack” part correct.

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    1. “the incredible contribution to the decline of many diseases that vaccines have already had?”
      RESPONSE:
      -Please provide Independent scientific evidence which can prove that disease reduction in any part of the world, at any point in history was attributable to inoculation of populations?

      “enjoy your polio”
      RESPONSE:
      In 1976, Dr Jonas Salk, creator of the killed-virus vaccine used in the 1950’s, testified that the live-virus vaccine (used almost exclusively in the U.S. from the early 1960’s to 2000) was the “principal if not sole cause” of all reported polio cases in the U.S. since 1961 (Washington Post,September 24,1976). The virus remains in the throat for one to two weeks and in the feces for up to two months. Thus, vaccine recipients are at risk, and can potentially spread the disease, as long as fecal excretion of the virus continues ( American Academy of Pediatrics, Report of the Committee on Infectious Diseases:1986(Elk Grove Village, Illinois: AAP):284–5.
      -In 1992, the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published an admission that the live-virus vaccine had become the dominant cause of polio in the United States (Strebel PM., et al. Epidemiology of poliomyletis in U.S. one decade after the last reported case of indigenous wild virus associated disease, Clinical Infectious Diseases CDC, February 1992:568–79). In fact, according to CDC figures, every case of polio in the U.S. since 1979 was caused by the oral polio vaccine (CDC reference above) Authorities claim the vaccine was responsible for about eight cases of polio every year (Institute of Medicine. An evaluation of poliomyelitis vaccine policy options.IOM Publication 88-04(Washington DC: National Academy of Sciences,1988). However, an independent study that analyzed the government’s own vaccine database during a recent period of less than five years uncovered 13,641 reports of adverse events following use of the oral polio vaccine. These reports included 6,364 emergency room visits and 540 deaths (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), Rockville, MD. & IOS. The Polio vaccine coverup COPV Vaccine Report: Document #14. http://www.ios(dot)com/~w1066/poliov6.html)
      Public outrage at these tragedies became the impetus for removing the oral polio vaccine from immunization schedules (Strebel PM., et al. Epidemiology ofpoliomyletis in U.S. one decade after the last reported case of indigenous wild virus associated disease, Clinical Infectious Diseases CDC, February 1992:568–79).

      “enjoy your MMR” (I think you meant to say enjoy your measles but when trolls post these non-specific comments I know it gets confusing.)
      RESPONSE:
      The measles vaccine has failed, he explained two years ago in a prescient paper, “The re-emergence of measles in developed countries.” In that paper, he warned that due to factors that most haven’t noticed, measles has come back to be a serious public health threat. Poland sees the need for a major rethink, after concluding that the current measles vaccine is unlikely to ever live up to the job expected of it: “outbreaks are occurring even in highly developed countries where vaccine access, public health infrastructure, and health literacy are not significant issues. This is unexpected and a worrisome harbinger — measles outbreaks are occurring where they are least expected,” he wrote in his 2012 paper, listing the “surprising numbers of cases occurring in persons who previously received one or even two documented doses of measles-containing vaccine.” During the 1989-1991 U.S. outbreaks, 20% to 40% of those affected had received one to two doses. In a 2011 outbreak in Canada, “over 50% of the 98 individuals had received two doses of measles vaccine.”
      Paper: The Re-Emergence of Measles in Developed Countries: Time to Develop the Next-Generation Measles Vaccines? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih (dot) gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905323/
      http://business.financialpost (dot) com/2014/05/01/lawrence-solomon-vaccines-cant-prevent-measles-outbreaks/

      -Arch Intern Med. 1994 Aug 22;154(16):1815-20.
      Failure to reach the goal of measles elimination. Apparent paradox of measles infections in immunized persons.
      Poland GA1, Jacobson RM.
      Conclusion:The apparent paradox is that as measles immunization rates rise to high levels in a population, measles becomes a disease of immunized persons. Because of the failure rate of the vaccine and the unique transmissibility of the measles virus, the currently available measles vaccine, used in a single-dose strategy, is unlikely to completely eliminate measles. The long-term success of a two-dose strategy to eliminate measles remains to be determined. http://archinte.jamanetwork (dot) com/article.aspx?articleid=619215
      Dr. Gregory Poland is Professor of Medicine and founder and leader of Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group. Poland is one of the world’s most admired, most advanced thinkers in the field of vaccinology.
      Just a couple of HUGE MEASLES OUTBREAKS IN HIGHLY VACCINATED POPULATIONS:
      -Difficulties in eliminating measles and controlling rubella and mumps: a cross-sectional study of a first measles and rubella vaccination and a second measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination. PLoS One. 2014 ;9(2):e89361. Epub 2014 Feb 20. PMID: 24586717
      China has one of the most vaccination compliant populations in the world. In fact, measles vaccine is mandatory. So why have they had over 700 measles outbreaks from 2009 and 2012 alone? The reported coverage of the measles-rubella (MR) or measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine is greater than 99.0% in Zhejiang province. However, the incidence of measles, mumps, and rubella remains high.” (did you get that-99% vaccination coverage)
      -Major Measles Epidemic in Quebec Despite 99% Vaccination Coverage
      Boulianne N, De Serres G, Duval B, Joly JR, Meyer F, Déry P, Alary M, Le Hénaff D, Thériault N. Département de santé communautaire, Centre Hospitalier de l’Université Laval. [Major measles epidemic in the region of Quebec despite a 99% vaccine coverage] [Article in French]. Can J Public health. 1991 May-Jun;82(3):189-90
      -The largest measles epidemic in North America in the last decade, occurred in 2011 in Quebec, Canada, where rates of 1- and 2-dose vaccine coverage among children 3 years of age were 95%-97% and 90%, respectively, with 3%-5% unvaccinated.” “Among adolescents, 22% had received 2 vaccine doses. Outbreak investigation showed this proportion to have been an underestimate; active case finding identified 130% more cases among 2-dose recipients.”
      Largest measles epidemic in North America in a decade–Quebec, Canada, 2011: contribution of susceptibility, serendipity, and superspreading events. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih (dot) gov/pubmed/23264672.

      “everyone else’s kids’ herd immunity”
      RESPONSE:
      Herd immunity doesn’t exist-never has. A.W. Hedrich measles observation, was not a study or a research paper and had nothing to do with VACCINES. His observation was in 1933 and the killed measles vaccine (the first measles vaccine) wasn’t developed until 1963. By 1963, the death rate from measles in the United States had already dropped by approximately 98% ( Vital Statistics of the United States 1937, 1938, 1943, 1944, 1949, 1960, 1967, 1976, 1987, 1992; Historical Statistics of the United States— Colonial Times to 1970 Part 1; Health, United States, 2004, US Department of Health and Human Services; Vital Records & Health Data Development Section, Michigan Department of Community Health; US Census Bureau, Statistical Abstract of the United States: 2003; Reported Cases and Deaths from Vaccine Preventable Diseases, United States, 1950–2008.)
      Live measles vaccine was distributed in 1966-7. Just on that basis alone antibody production could not be detected. Herd Immunity has no basis in vaccine-induced antibody production, it is not a scientifically validated concept, it is not an immunologic idea, but rather an epidemiological construct and cannot be applied to vaccinated communities because VACCINES were not part of the OBSERVATION. This notion was built on the understanding that children developed immunity to a disease after experiencing it. Nowadays, we are told that vaccines can achieve the same. If we vaccinate the bulk of the herd, we can achieve herd immunity. Vaccinologists (a name they given themselves) adopted the phrase and increased the figure from 68% to 95% with no scientific justification as to why, and then stated that there had to be 95% vaccine coverage to achieve immunity. Essentially, they took Hedrich’s observation and manipulated it to promote their vaccination programs. Interestingly, the magic number has gone from 50% to 68% and is now 99-100%. Vaccination campaigns are aimed at reaching 100% compliance. However outbreaks of childhood illnesses are happening in highly vaccinated communities. Also take this into consideration:
      Today millions of adults exist with having had no vaccines in decades (Baby Boomers) and millions of teenagers who have not had boosters. That is more than half of the country’s population. There have not been ANY EPIDEMICS in the US as a result of more than half of the population being unvaccinated.

      “anti-vaxers put those people at risk”
      RESPONSE:
      Please provide data or research to substantiate your hyperbole.

      The remainder of your comment is the typical troll trash talk known as the TTT’s or 3T’s. The idea is to throw so many erroneous concepts in a comment thus supposeably making it difficult for someone to respond to it adequately to dispels all the outright lies posted. It’s also know as a time -suck but for anyone who has been researching vaccines, the lack of science behind vaccines, the research and the vaccine industry itself-the information needed to respond is just a click away.

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      1. MMR…Measles, Mumps, and Rubella. While I appreciate your attempt at deprecation, I know what I meant to say. It’s interesting how the one person whose comment doesn’t agree with your whiny self indulgent little reality is a “troll.” You seem to have the troll idea down though, with the throwing out erroneous info.
        There have not been any epidemics… what are you, retarded or something??? Does it have to reach a full blown epidemic before you idiots decide to believe the facts?
        http://www.livescience.com/49637-measles-cases-us-vaccination.html

        Here’s another one: http://mic.com/articles/85525/3-diseases-that-have-suddenly-made-a-comeback-thanks-to-anti-vaccine-truthers

        Let’s see, shall I do some more research for you or are you only counting “research” that supports your argument? It’s called confirmation bias, and since it is evident you have your hands over your ears like a small child, it’s cleat that further engaging people like you is a time suck. The information to respond is just a click away you, pompous dick bag.

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      2. Your links say it all. Elnura links to published studies, and government websites. You link to a couple of opinion pieces on random websites. Btw just because a site has the word “science” in the title ie Livescience, doesn’t make it an authoritative source of information on vaccination or immunology.

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      3. Do you get your dogs vaccinated or is that a big conspiracy too? I appreciate at least you being polite about it, but the science behind vaccines are sound. There is no big pharam conspircy. And if there was a CAUSATIVE link to between vaccines and autism, then everyone would have autism. Also, you learn in basic science, correlation does not equal causation. That said, aside from emotional anecdotes, there isn’t even a correllation and I am not going to trust your camps “scientific” sites more than the CDC. Sorry, just not. And since it’s clear you guys have made up your minds despite this issue being debunked, I really don’t have anything further to add. Thank you again for being civil.

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      5. Herd immunity is a theory that doesn’t operate the way you think it does.
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6879000

        Rev Infect Dis. 1983 May-Jun;5(3):463-6.
        Herd immunity and measles.
        Fox JP.
        Abstract
        The basic concept of herd immunity is directly applicable only under very special conditions. The agents of disease must be restricted to a single host species within which transmission occurs by relatively direct contact, and infection induces solid immunity. Also outbreaks must occur only in randomly mixing populations. In free-living populations, susceptibles are not distributed homogeneously but tend to cluster in subgroups defined by age and by such factors as ethnicity and socioeconomic status. The requisite for occurrence of epidemics, namely a large enough number of susceptibles in frequent contact with each other, exists in virtually all large populations, regardless of the total proportion of the population that is immune. Experience with measles illustrates these conditions. Total prevalence of immunity of greater than or equal to 90% in developing countries does not prevent annual epidemics among the susceptibles, most of whom are children younger than three years of age. Where vaccination is widely practiced, as in the United States since 1962, measles has continued to occur in poorly immunized subgroups that are characterized by low educational level and economic status, very young age, or religious beliefs forbidding acceptance of vaccine. Ultimate success of a systematic immunization program requires knowledge of distribution of susceptibles by age and subgroup and maximal effort to reduce the concentration of susceptibles throughout the community rather than aiming to reach any specific proportion of the overall population.

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      6. Finally, reading comprehension is a must. I did not say “enjoy your polio…” I said, how are you enjoying not having it? Guess that whole polio vaccine and the decline of polio was a fluke huh? Or let me guess, “polio was already on the decline.” Guess what… Just because I don’t swallow this bullshit like you seem to doesn’t mean I haven’t HEARD the bullshit.

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      7. In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77)

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      8. Very well said, thank you for taking the time to respond to this fact-free troll trash.

        Funny how us “deniers of science” can reply with numerous scientific studies to substantiate what we claim, yet the responde (below) from Mr A.R.Q is…again…fact-free and unsubstantiated.

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    2. 3 Diseases That Have Suddenly Made a Comeback, Thanks to Anti-Vaccine Truthers Measles:
      Response:
      Gates Foundation/CFR Propaganda Against ‘Anti-Vaccine’ Movement Backfires”
      “It is well known that in war, the first casualty is truth – that during any war truth is forsaken for propaganda.” ~ Harry Browne

      Great map. Unfortunately it demonstrated the opposite of what the Gates Foundation wanted it to do. The map is that is not based on peer-reviewed biomedical evidence as one would expect, but largely anecdotal evidence aggregated from unconfirmed and often unverifiable news stories. Basically epidemiological which can say what the researches want it to say-they make it up as they go along. With not a shred of evidence, the writer of this article you linked and dozens of others opine that the prevalence of measles in Europe — especially Britain — and the U.S are an “artifact of the anti-vaccination movement, which has associated the vaccine with autism.” Really? Why no mention of the extensive evidence within the published literature of measles vaccine failure in the US since 1995 in immunization compliant populations, revealing that measles epidemics are often due to a failing vaccine and not the failure to vaccinate? If the CFR’s map is ‘evidence-based,’ WHY NO REFERENCES TO THE PRIMARY LITERATURE?

      Take a quick peek at a few examples of the explicitly not evidence-based sources for this map, which are simply re-broadcasted official statements of state- or private medical establishment-sponsored propaganda:
      -www.BrownwoodNews.com: “Record Cases of Pertussis Reported Across the State, Three Reported in Brown County”
      -www.davisclipper.com: “Adults also need pertussis vaccine”
      -www.springfieldnewsun.com: “Clark pertussis cases still rising”

      Where is the INDEPENDENT SCIENTIFIC VERIFIABLE DATA?

      Shockingly, in the last CFR/Gates Foundation map’s reference from the Springfield News Sun the author actually points out that one of the likely causes of the increase in pertussis vaccine is the vaccine itself:
      ****Nearly a century after the release of the whooping cough (B. Pertussis) vaccine, mounting evidence suggests that widespread mandated use of the vaccine could potentially be doing more harm than good in the long term—in addition to having been found lacking in the effectiveness department. As reported by The Washington Post:

      “The research suggests that while the vaccine may keep people from getting sick, it doesn’t prevent them from spreading whooping cough — also known as Pertussis — to others.

      ‘It could explain the increase in Pertussis that we’re seeing in the US,’ said one of the researchers, Tod Merkel of the Food and Drug Administration…

      The study, titled: “Acellular Pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model,” used infant baboons to test the hypothesis that “current acellular pertussis vaccines fail to prevent colonization and transmission” of B. Pertussis. (there is no vaccine for Bordetella Pertussis virus) http://www.pnas (dot) org/content/111/2/787

      Lead author Tod Merkel did comment to the New York Times that when exposed to B. Pertussis after recently getting vaccinated, you could be an asymptomatic carrier and infect others, saying:

      “When you’re newly vaccinated, you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population.” According to Tod Merkel of the FDA, it has now become clear that the vaccine does almost nothing to prevent the spread of whooping cough. Although it does seem to prevent about 80 percent of people from showing symptoms of the disease, it does not prevent them from catching it or spreading it.

      Most current study:
      Study: Whooping cough resurgence due to vaccinated people not knowing they’re infectious? clinicalnews(dot)org/2015/06/24/study-whooping-cough-resurgence-due-to-vaccinated-people-not-knowing-theyre-infectious/comment-page-1/. From study/article:

      “a detailed epidemiological model of whooping cough transmission to conclude that acellular vaccines may well have contributed to — even exacerbated — the recent pertussis outbreak by allowing infected individuals without symptoms to unknowingly spread pertussis multiple times in their lifetimes.

      ‘There could be millions of people out there with just a minor cough or no cough spreading this potentially fatal disease without knowing it,’ said Althouse. ‘The public health community should act now to better assess the true burden of pertussis infection.’

      What’s worse, their model shows that if the disease can be spread through vaccinated, asymptomatic individuals essentially undetected, the level of vaccination needed to protect those that are unvaccinated (so-called ‘herd immunity’) is over 99 percent, impractically high at a time when anti-vaccine campaigns are turning people away from vaccination.

      Clearly, the CFR’s map can not be taken seriously, and is simply a higher order expression of at best subpar health reporting, at worst baseless propaganda, demagogically projected into the media to hapless consumers whose ability to think critically and question authority is virtually non-existent. By framing advocates of non-vaccination as rabidly irrational ‘anti-vaxxers’ and blaming them for what are often non-vaccine preventable diseases — having far more to do with environmental factors such as access to clean water and basic nutrition –the CFR (and the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation who shares responsibility in creating this disturbingly inane and non-credible piece of propaganda) is joining a growing global movement, recently evidenced by UNICEF’s attack on independent health journalism related to vaccines, aimed at eliminating vaccine choice, despite increasing awareness of their true dangers and lack of effectiveness. The result of this shoddy work, however, is to further lionize a growing global movement to reject the alarmingly rapid expansion of vaccine schedules in favor of a more natural, precautionary approach to disease prevention.
      http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/gates-foundationcfr-propaganda-against-anti-vaccine-movement-backfires?page=1

      Measles: commented on extensively in previous post but the fact remains the Vaccine is a dud and vaccinated people are contagious.

      Mumps: Failure of vaccine:
      -Doctors Agree: Ineffective Vaccine Responsible for Hockey League Mumps Epidemic. http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/doctors-agree-ineffective-vaccine-responsible-for-hockey-league-mumps-epidemic/.
      -Mumps Vaccine Failure: Mumps Outbreaks in 2013 Among Vaccinated. http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/mumps-vaccine-failure-mumps-outbreaks-in-2013-among-vaccinated/
      -Mumps Vaccine Proves Ineffective as Outbreaks Among Fully Vaccinated Increase. http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/mumps-vaccine-proves-ineffective-as-outbreaks-among-fully-vaccinated-increase/.
      -Students at Fordham University Experiencing Mumps Outbreak Even though They were Vaccinated Against It. http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/students-at-fordham-university-experiencing-mumps-outbreak-even-though-they-were-vaccinated-against-it/.
      -NHL Mumps Outbreak Vaccine Induced? http://experimentalvaccines(dot)org/2014/12/29/nhl-mumps-outbreak-vaccine-induced/.

      “Let’s see, shall I do some more research for you or are you only counting “research” that supports your argument? It’s called confirmation bias, and since it is evident you have your hands over your ears like a small child, it’s cleat that further engaging people like you is a time suck. The information to respond is just a click away you, pompous dick bag.”

      LOL 🙂 Do you feel better now??

      Thin the herd? I’m not in the herd. Never have been and never will be. I don’t consider myself livestock or cattle. Livestock are dispensable. What eventually happens to the herd is what’s happening to people who actively join the herd and bow down upon the altar of the vaccine/pharmaceutical industry and become vaccines loyalist-they get led to the slaughter.

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      1. Please provide the information that confirms that the fact that the Polio vaccine wasn’t effective is a lie/myth/misinformation.

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    3. “your whiny self indulgent little reality is a “troll.”
      Nice try at distraction and deflection but people on this site know I am not a troll.
      The primary indication and reveal of a person who is a troll is the “name calling”. That’s a sure give away. When you must resort to name calling you’re lost the debate. Name calling is the last refuge of the outargued. The professional highly paid trolls don’t engage in name calling and abuse because they have learned it’s a dead give away. So let’s stick to the data you provided: live science
      -“2015, a total of 84 cases of measles.” Actually to date there have been a total of 186. 2014:
      “In 2014, there were more than 600 cases of measles in the U.S., more than in any other year over the past two decades. -between 2001 and 2010, the median number of cases reported yearly was 60”.
      If you’ve studied childhood illnesses you would know that measles is a cyclic illness that comes around in cycles. Some years there are going to be fewer cases than other. That’s just the way nature works. If the current delusional mindset of people want to blame a cyclical rise in cases on a cluster with fewer vaccinated people because these clusters have always existed so be it but the statements are erroneous and disingenuous: (VITAL STATISTICS RATES IN THE UNITED STATES 1940-1960-http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsrates1940_60.pdf) There has never been a time when vaccination rates were identical in each and every school or community The fact that were 600 cases of measles n 2014 which cause a freak out is laughable. 600 cases in a population of three and a half million people is not a cause for alarm. Questions to be asked: how many of those cases were from viral vaccine shedding that the CDC knows occurs often that’s not reported. The Emerging Risks of Live Virus & Virus Vectored Vaccines: Vaccine Strain Virus Infection, Shedding & Transmission. http://www.nvic.org/CMSTemplates/NVIC/pdf/Live-Virus-Vaccines-and-Vaccine-Shedding.pdf.
      Example: the measles cases:
      Study titled, “Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011,” http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/9/1205.long
      The groundbreaking study acknowledged that, “Measles may occur in vaccinated individuals, but secondary transmission from such individuals has not been documented.
      Sciencemag (dot) org article from April 2014 titled “Measles Outbreak Traced to Fully Vaccinated Patient for First Time.”
      Specifics: In order to find out if measles vaccine compliant individuals are capable of being infected and transmitting the infection to others, they evaluated suspected cases and contacts exposed during a 2011 measles outbreak in NYC. They focused on one patient who had received two doses of measles-containing vaccine and found that,

      “Of 88 contacts,( this means that 88 people were infected from this FULLY VACCINATED YOUNG WOMAN in NY in 2011) four secondary cases were confirmed that had either two doses of measles-containing vaccine or a past positive measles IgG antibody. All cases had laboratory confirmation of measles infection, clinical symptoms consistent with measles, and high avidity IgG antibody characteristic of a secondary immune response.”
      Their remarkable conclusion:

      “This is a report of measles transmission from a twice vaccinated individual (fully vaccinated). The clinical presentation and laboratory data of the index were typical of measles in a naïve individual. Secondary cases had robust anamnestic antibody responses. No tertiary cases occurred despite numerous contacts. This outbreak underscores the need for thorough epidemiologic and laboratory investigation of suspected measles cases regardless of vaccination status.”

      Did you follow that? A twice-vaccinated individual, from a NYC measles outbreak, was found to have transmitted measles to four of her contacts, two of which themselves had received two doses of MMR vaccine and had prior presumably protective measles IgG antibody results.

      Also: how many measles cases are never documented as MEASLES because the child was fully vaccinated therefore the CDC manipulates the data to hide the fact that children are being infected by the vaccine. The following is a quote from the CDC’s measles chapter of the “Pink Book”:
      Adverse reactions following measles vaccine (except allergic reactions) represent replication of measles vaccine virus with subsequent mild illness. These events occur 5–12 days post vaccination and only in persons who are susceptible to infection. There is no evidence of increased risk of adverse reactions following MMR vaccination in persons who are already immune to the diseases.

      Fever is the most common adverse reaction following MMR vaccination. Although measles, rubella, and mumps vaccines may cause fever after vaccination, the measles component of MMR vaccine is most often associated with this adverse reaction. After MMR vaccination, 5%–15% of susceptible persons develop a temperature of 103 F (39.4 C) or higher, usually occurring 7–12 days after vaccination and generally lasting 1–2 days. Most persons with fever are otherwise asymptomatic. (my comment-but contagious)

      Measles- and rubella-containing vaccines, including MMR, may cause a transient rash. Rashes, usually appearing 7–10 days after MMR or measles vaccination, have been reported in approximately 5% of vaccinees.
      What has just been described in the CDC’s Measles Pink Book is the childhood illness know as MEASLES. It does matter how you describe it or how you spin it-the child has been injected with a live virus. Attenuated or not from that moment on they are contagious. If they display any symptoms of upper respiratory distress, congestion, coughing, a rash, fever, joint pain, headache, red irritated eyes, runny nose after they have been vaccinated-they have the MEASLES. According to Dr. Maurice Hilleman in the book “Fear of the Invisible” by award winning investigate journalist Janine Roberts who has researched and investigated the vaccine industry for 17 years-Hilleman told her it is expected at least 20% of children injected with the MMR will get sick.
      Here is the interview. Merck arranged for Roberts to interview Hilleman over the phone:
      “They arranged for me to speak on the phone with their top expert in the US, Dr Maurice Hilleman, the internationally renowned specialist who developed the MMR vaccine.

      I said to him ‘I understand this vaccine is made up of living viruses that you have so weakened so they will not make the child ill, but not so weakened that they will not give the child immunity. It must be difficult to so exactly weaken viruses?’

      ‘Exactly, you have hit the nail on the head.’ he replied.

      I then queried, ‘Do you have any guidelines for doing this?’

      ‘Yes,’ he said, ‘Twenty percent.’

      I did not understand this very brief answer so asked him to explain.

      He replied: ‘If only 20% of the children fall ill from the vaccine, that is judged acceptable.’

      When I gasped with surprise, he quickly added, ‘Oh I don’t mean seriously ill. Just lightly ill.’

      I next interviewed the top British expert on immunisation at London University, Professor Michael Stewart of the School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. I asked him; ‘Some parents are telling me they suspect their children have been made ill as a consequence of vaccination. Are their fears groundless?’

      I nearly fell off my chair when he replied: ‘What else would you expect? We all know the current childhood vaccines containing living viruses are dangerous. That is why I am heading up a team to develop safer vaccines.’ He went on to explain that, with living viruses, there was always potential for some to mutate or to be insufficiently attenuated for safe use in the vaccine.

      Vaccines were never developed to prevent infection-just the adverse or serious consequences if the infection becomes aggressive.

      Food for thought is the statement “Most persons with fever are otherwise asymptomatic.” Translation: you can have the measles and show no outwardly sighs and you are contagious. Just like all the Whooping Cough studies that are emerging stating people vaccinated for pertussis are asymptomatic carriers:
      “Acellular Pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model,” used infant baboons to test the hypothesis that “current acellular pertussis vaccines fail to prevent colonization and transmission” of B. Pertussis. (there is no vaccine for Bordetella Pertussis virus) http://www.pnas.org/content/111/2/787. Quote:
      “When you’re newly vaccinated, you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population.” According to Tod Merkel of the FDA, it has now become clear that the vaccine does almost nothing to prevent the spread of whooping cough. Although it does (seem) to prevent about 80 percent of people from showing symptoms of the disease, it does not prevent them from catching it or spreading it.
      “Whooping cough resurgence due to vaccinated people not knowing they’re infectious? clinicalnews.org/2015/06/24/study-whooping-cough-resurgence-due-to-vaccinated-people-not-knowing-theyre-infectious/comment-page-1/. Quote:
      “a detailed epidemiological model of whooping cough transmission to conclude that acellular vaccines may well have contributed to — even exacerbated — the recent pertussis outbreak by allowing infected individuals without symptoms to unknowingly spread pertussis multiple times in their lifetimes.

      ‘There could be millions of people out there with just a minor cough or no cough spreading this potentially fatal disease without knowing it,’ said Althouse. ‘The public health community should act now to better assess the true burden of pertussis infection.’

      This applies to all LIVE VIRUS vaccines. Another CDC secret is the CDC makes the determination if a child is diagnosed as having Measles, not the local health depts. So if a child has had the MMR and becomes infected by the vaccine it will not be documented as Measles it will be documented as “Viral Syndrome NOS”. If an unvaccinated child has the same symptoms and same labs-that child will be documented as having Measles and probably blamed for any other children who become infected. Most likely they were infected by the vaccinated child. When the Disney False Flag was initiated some parents had their kids vaccinated. Here are the results of the MMR recorded by those parents:
      -An Unexpected Side Effect of My Daughter’s Measles Vaccine
      http://www.kveller.com/an-unexpected-side-effect-of-my-daughters-measles-vaccine/
      -My Sons’ Vaccine-Related Measles
      http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/my-sons-vaccine-related-measles/
      -Genotype Testing Showed Baltimore Baby’s Symptoms Were A Reaction To The MMR, Health Officials Relieved
      http://www.inquisitr.com/1801210/genotype-baltimore-mmr/
      -https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205874067907027&set=p.10205874067907027&type=1&theater
      -Story of one little girl:
      vaccinescanharm.com/story-of-one-little-girl.

      So how many of those cases are VACCINE INDUCED? The above cases were not diagnosed as measles despite lab confirmation. How many are from LIVE VIRUS SHEDDING or VACCINE FAILURE? Meg talks about how her daughter became infected with chicken pox after a daycare child was vaccinated: http://www.livingwhole.org/my-child-got-chicken-pox-and-survived/. The Chicken Pox & Measles vaccine vial inserts states that they shed for 21 days. Read them. They are produced by the manufactures.

      As to waiting for an epidemic? What do you consider an epidemic in a population of three and a half million people? 180? 600? 1000? Before it can be considered an epidemic first the CDC would have to reveal the results of the PCR testing done on the people who have been infected. They seldom do that unless it’s to their advantage because the PCR test reveals the DNA of the virus that people are infected with. All the outbreaks of Measles in the last few years have been Genotype A strains-that’s a vaccine strain. Can’t let the public know that. But lets address an epidemic: This is what an epidemic looks like: “Measles Epidemic ANNOTATIONS
      Measles epidemic [page 354] Br Med J 1959;1:351.2 (Published 07 February 1959)

      In the first three weeks of this year about 41,000 cases of measles were recorded in England and Wales. This is well above the corresponding figures of the last two years – namely, about 9,000 in 1958 and 28,000 in 1957 – though it is below the highest levels reached in the last nine years. To give some idea of the main features of the disease as it appears today and of how it is best treated, we invited some general practitioners to write short reports on the cases they have seen in their practices recently.” https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2013/04/15/british-medical-journal-tells-us-measles-is-not-the-scary-disease-the-press-want-you-to-think-it-is/.”
      When you read the doctors comments you will see that none one broke a sweat and out of 41,000 people- 4 cases of otitis media occurred in the first 25 children, but only one had pain. No case of pneumonia, one child had grossly abnormal signs in the chest for a few days after the fever subsided, uninfluenced by oral penicillin. One girl had a tear-duct infection and another an undue blepharitis. Of three adult males with the disease, two have been more severely affected than any of the children.
      That’s an epidemic. In third world countries the results would have been more devastating because of their lack of sanitation, access to medical care, access to clean food and water lack of nutrition because the food is so depleted of vitamins and enzymes which would help maintain good physical health. Poor soil quality and chemicals in the soil from all the industrial plants in these countries have contaminated the ground.
      Measles is not a deadly disease and the data demonstrates this. Here are the Measles on measles deaths since 2000:
      Measles Deaths:
      2000: 1
      2001: 1
      2002: 0
      2003: 1
      2004: 0
      2005: 1
      2006: 0
      2007: 0
      2008: 0
      2009: 2
      2010: 2
      2011: 0
      2012: 0
      2013: 0
      2014: 0
      Source: National Vital Static’s Report-years 2000-2013. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/nvsr.htm.

      -Woman in Seattle who died from pneumonia and the measles virus was discovered when she was autopsied: The woman who died was not among the unvaccinated. On the contrary, she not only had been vaccinated, but reportedly was tested and found to have a protective antibody titer. She nevertheless became infected with measles while seeking medical attention in a clinic. She died from pneumonia, which can be caused by any number of other bacterial or viral infections besides measles, including the common cold and flu. The reason her immune system couldn’t handle the infection was because doctors had her on immunosuppressive drugs. Hence, medical intervention was a contributing factor in her death.

      A piece in The Seattle Times that the woman was in her 20s.
      “The news of Clallam County over the past few months that the previous case—the fifth—of measles in that county involved a man who had been vaccinated against the disease. The other four measles cases in the county in February involved people who had not been vaccinated. These included a 14-year old boy (the fourth case) and his 5-year old sister (the second case), and two men ages 43 (the third case) and 52 (the first case). Two of the individuals involved in the first four cases are apparently related to the man in the fifth case.

      According to Clallam health officials, both the fourth and fifth case individuals were quarantined during their infectious period, so they could not have spread the disease All five cases occurred at the same time there was so much national commotion over the outbreak of measles at Disneyland… which explains why the Clallam County Health and Human Services officials started issuing public health advisories urging people to get free shots of the measles vaccine (MMR) at local clinics.

      It’s possible that the 20-some year old woman (the sixth case) caught the measles virus from one of the other five people (although we know that at least two of those individuals had been quarantined). But it is also possible that the woman, who never actually developed measles symptoms, simply responded to local health advisories and drove over to a clinic and got her MMR shot, and that’s what the autopsy found was traces of the vaccine strain measles virus in her system. The Washington Health Dept. stated the virus was not the same as the Disney stain which was Genotype B3 so the Genotype of the virus she was infected with is Genotype A, (VACCINE STRAIN) but what number considering there are about 19-21 Genotype A strains listed on the CDC website. Remember, MMR is an attenuated (weakened) live virus vaccine, and those who get live virus vaccines can be infected with it. Also, given her immunocompromised status, had the young woman been given a Pneumonia vaccine recently? What is the Pneumonia strain found in her system? (WASHINGTON STATE HEALTH DEPT Never responded to these questions I sent them)

      Despite the continual myth that local health depts across the country are perpetuating to push the vaccine manic agenda, immunocompromised children & adults can be vaccinated if they chose -this is on the CDC’s website. Levi Quackenboss wrote an extensive article on this very topic: http://fearlessparent.org/what-about-the-immunocompromised/.

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    4. As for the MMR:
      Congressman Bill Posey (R-FL) at 1:02:29 http://www.c-span(dot)org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live=

      -transcript: http://www.ageofautism(dot)com/2015/07/breaking-news-congressman-posey-on-house-floor-cdc-authors-of-2004-mmr-paper-destroyed-documents.html#comments

      -CDC Whistleblower Revealed: https://www.youtube(dot)com/watch?v=sGOtDVilkUc

      -CDC Whistleblower Dr. Thompson on Thimerosal and Pregnant Women: https://www.youtube(dot)com/watch?v=3EK4ZE-SPIc

      -My name is William Thompson. I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where I have worked since 1998. I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data
      were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.
      Remainder of admission at: http://www.morganverkamp(dot)com/august-27-2014-press-release-statement-of-william-w-thompson-ph-d-regarding-the-2004-article-examining-the-possibility-of-a-relationship-between-mmr-vaccine-and-autism/.

      -Whistleblower Thompson’s Call to Congress: https://www.youtube(dot)com/watch?v=8697rSvIqhg

      ****Dr. William Thompson chose to release his public statement less than one day after Natural News published the second in a series of once-secret emails between Dr. Thompson and his CDC colleagues.

      The release of those emails may have been pivotal in Dr. Thompson’s choice to go public with his own statement. The vaccine establishment, which immediately and predictably accused Natural News of fabricating the two emails, is now backpedaling as rapidly as possible with the full knowledge that Dr. Thompson’s public statement affirms and supports the authenticity of those emails. Natural News, in other words, was instrumental in breaking this historical story about medical fraud at
      the highest levels of the CDC. (Credit is also due to many other independent media organizations and alternative journalists who pounded this story from day one.)

      Those two emails are available here:
      October 18, 2002 letter to Melinda Wharton, Coleen Boyle and others, where William Thompson announces he is hiring his own lawyer and impliesa CDC cover-up of a D.O.J. investigation:

      Dear Melinda, I am writing once more regarding the recent Department of Justice (DOJ) request for a broad range of documents associated with MMR, thinners, and Autism. I first spoke with you on September 3rd of 2002 regarding the sensitive results we have been struggling within in the MADDSP
      MMR/Autism Study. I have also tried to bring your attention to some potentially sensitive legal issues surrounding what documents we should provide for his study. We have subsequently been told by both Beverly Dozier and Kevin Malone that we should apply na very broad definition to the documents that we provide to the DOJ.

      February 2nd, 2004 letter to Dr. Julie Gerberding:
      http://www.naturalnews(dot)com/images/CDC-Gerberding-warning-vaccines-autism.JPG.

      ****Some more info on the MMR and other whistle blowers:
      -Former Merck scientists file suit against Merck under False Claims Act:

      A formal complaint was filed in the Eastern Pennsylvania Federal District Court accusing Merck of a longstanding scheme to mislead and defraud Government health authorities worldwide. Two of Merck’s former employees have accused the pharmaceutical giant of marketing multivalent
      MMR vaccines under false pretenses. According to the complaint, these vaccines have been mislabeled, misbranded, adulterated and falsely certified as having a 95% efficacy rate.

      Court documents filed by two Merck virologists meticulously detail how Merck ostensibly manipulated test results for decades in order to create a false 95% efficacy rate for the mumps component of their multivalent MMR vaccines.

      The former Merck virologists contend that the multivalent mumps component has a vastly reduced efficacy which is directly responsible for mumps outbreaks during the last decade which prompted international calls for MMR booster shots every 4 – 8 years.

      Virologists Stephen Krahling and Joan Wlochowski describe how Merck had to recertify the mumps component in 2000, in order to comply with regulatory requirements in order for the mumps component to be included in two new multivalent MMR vaccines. The usual test, which had certified the mumps component’s efficacy in the 60’s, failed when used in 2000. They claim the results were so low Merck decided to change its own test protocol by testing the vaccine against the weakened mumps vaccine virus instead of the wild (naturally circulating) mumps virus.

      When that modification didn’t result in the desired 95% efficacy figure, Merck’s executive directors of vaccine research, Drs Alan Shaw and Emilio Emini, instructed Drs David Krah and Mary Yagodich to
      implement a vast array of modifications to testing procedures3, then, allegedly pressured both Krahling and Wlochowski to participate.

      When these modifications also failed to demonstrate the desired 95% efficacy rate, it is alleged that Drs Shaw and Emini instructed Drs Krah and Yagovich to abandon “gold standard” testing, and implement a new procedure, supposedly with the agreement of FDA, which included adding animal antibodies to human blood samples taken both pre and post vaccination.

      By combining the very low levels of human antibodies with animal antibodies, a much higher total level of virus neutralization was obtained than could occur from human antibodies alone. The human
      antibody levels alone would never protect in the real world against wild mumps. But after adding animal antibodies, the human blood samples which had previously failed under the old “gold standard” testing were retested using the “enhanced” protocols and passed with flying colors. New ‘enhanced’ tests showed 100% efficacy, not against wild mumps virus,but against the mumps vaccine virus.

      However, combining the animal and human antibodies led to a new problem. In some of the tests more than 80% of pre-vaccine blood samples now showed up as immune. Usually, the highest number of pre-vaccine immune results any scientist could expect is 10%. Further manipulations of the animal antibody levels failed to bring the pre-vaccine blood test results down to the expected 10% levels.

      According to the complaint, Merck then implemented additional ‘creative’ strategies to show a lack of seroconversion in immune samplesin an attempt to reduce the pre-vax level to the expected 10% because had the FDA seen the high numbers of “immune” pre-vaccine samples they would have easily detected the fraudulent test procedures.

      Krahling and Wlochowski worked with the same team conducting these tests, but were outraged at what they deemed to be gross scientific deception and fraudulent practices.

      When Drs Krahling and Wlochowski attempted to stop what they saw as, “wholesale fabrication of test data to reach its preordained 95% efficacy threshold,” Merck allegedly made various attempts to prevent them, including threatening to jail Dr. Krahling should he inform the FDA.

      Despite these efforts, Dr Krahling made numerous calls to FDA. These calls remained unanswered until Dr. Krahling reported to the FDA that Dr. Krah had removed and/or destroyed Dr. Krahling’s evidence.

      An FDA agent then came and interviewed Dr. Krah, who apparently told the agent whatever was necessary to allay their concerns. The agent made no attempt to interview any other personnel, check any facilities, laboratory notebooks, or samples to corroborate what had been reported to them.

      The lawsuit claims that to this day, Merck has consistently misrepresented the potency by simply quoting the 40 year old data from the pre-MMR monovalent mumps vaccine, thereby misrepresenting the efficacy of four multivalent vaccines: MMR, MMRII, Europe’s MMRvaxpro, and ProQuad, which is MMR plus chickenpox.

      According to the two whistleblowers, not only have all the multivalent MMR vaccines been sold under false pretenses, but, as a result of this LACK OF EFFICACY, there have been numerous mumps
      outbreaks worldwide prompting calls for regular MMR boosters throughout life. These mumps outbreaks were predicted by Merck’s Dr Krah in 2001, yet Merck allegedly ‘willfully’ withheld this information from multiple governments while consistently claiming there was no need for a new
      mumps component.

      UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
      United States of America ex rel., Stephen A Krahling and Joan A Wlochowski, AMENDED

      COMPLAINT FOR Plaintiffs, VIOLATIONS OF THE FEDERAL FALSE CLAIMS

      ACT FILED Merck & Co.inc . Defendant

      Click to access Merck-mumps-suit.pdf

      COURTHOUSE NEWS SERVICE:
      Class Says Merck Lied About Mumps Vaccine By REUBEN KRAMER
      http://www.courthousenews(dot)com/2012/06/27/47851.htm

      *****Chatom Primary Care sues Merck for Sherman Act monopolization, breach of warranty, violation of consumer protection laws.
      The lawsuit record is available here:

      Click to access Chatom-Lawsuit-Merck-Mumps.pdf

      It alleges
      -[Merck engaged in] …a decade-long scheme to falsify and misrepresent the true efficacy of its vaccine.
      -Merck fraudulently represented and continues to falsely represent in its labeling and elsewhere that its Mumps Vaccine has an efficacy rate of 95 percent of higher.
      -In reality, Merck knows and has taken affirmative steps to conceal — by using improper testing techniques and falsifying test data — that its Mumps Vaccine is, and has been since at least 1999, far less than 95 percent effective.
      -Merck designed a testing methodology that evaluated its vaccine against a less virulent strain of the mumps virus. After the results failed to yield Merck’s desired efficacy, Merck abandoned the methodology and concealed the study’s findings.

      …incorporating the use of animal antibodies to artificially inflate the results…

      …destroying evidence of the falsified data and then lying to an FDA investigator…

      …threatened a virologist in Merck’s vaccine division with jail if he reported the fraud to the FDA…

      …the ultimate victims here are the millions of children who every year are being injected with a mumps vaccine that is not providing them with an adequate level of protection. And while this is a disease that,
      according to the Centers for Disease Control (‘CDC’), was supposed to be eradicated by now, the failure in Merck’s vaccine has allowed this disease to linger, with significant outbreaks continuing to occur.

      Chatom Primary Care also alleges that the fraudulent Merck vaccine contributed to the 2006 mumps outbreak in the Midwest, and a 2009 outbreak elsewhere. It says, “there has remained a significant risk of aresurgence of mumps outbreaks…”

      -Judge: Lawsuit Against Merck’s MMR Vaccine Fraud to Continue
      http://healthimpactnews(dot)com/2014/judge-lawsuit-against-mercks-mmr-vaccine-fraud-to-continue/

      -Memorandum issued by Judge explaining his ruling.

      Click to access 59-opinion.pdf

      -Qui Tam, Class Action Cases Against Merck Proceed: Gina Passarella, The Legal Intelligencer
      http://www.thelegalintelligencer(dot)com/home/id=1202669116132/Qui-Tam-Class-Action-Cases-Against-Merck-Proceed?slreturn=20150414103317

      -Vaccine Whistleblowers File to Compel Merck to Respond to Federal Lawsuit: http://healthimpactnews(dot)com/2015/vaccine-whistleblowers-file-to-compel-merk-to-respond-to-federal-lawsuit/

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      2. No, you know what…let’s set aside for a moment the fact that we both think the other are fucking idiots, because although you didn’t “name call,” you certainly insinuated as much. Let’s also set aside the fact that although you think I was spouting out falsehoods in order to overwhelm someone and keep them from answering, you attempted to do with same with a copy and paste argument that almost no one would want to slog through, most of which is mind numbing stats that mean little out of context.
        Let’s say for the sake of argument, this is the internet and we can both find supposedly reputable sources to support our individual claims. How are we to know which “science” to believe? Because the god’s honest truth is, even though some people may have vax injuries, there are many, man, many people who had vax, myself and child included, who are perfectly fine and excel both physically and intellectually.
        The whole reason the OP irritated me so badly is because only once in the whole article was there a link to any actual data (and that is one book by a supposedly whistleblower whose motivations are unknown to me. )

        The OP’s post struck me as immature and reactionary, basically making fun of the CDC and accusing them of conspiracy. Honestly, OP sounded like a person in need of a tin foil hat.
        Sooo. it’s clear neither of us will be changing our minds, but I do not like leaving a convo on an emotional note, so good day to you.

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      3. So, alienredqueen, elnural provided us with many links to back up her stance. Can you post ones to support your position? I’m sure you have many filed away, since you’ve done such extensive research. I look forward to reading them!

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    5. Hm – vax only has to do 3 things to be worth doing- 1 – PROTECT from the disease the vax is designed for. Huge fail. Last year the Disney Measles Fantasy showed that most of those getting measles WERE vaccinated. NYState measles outbreak shows 90% of the infected were vaccinated to NOT get infected. Mumps in Ohio – 97% of the sick were vaccinated against getting mumps – WHERE’S YOUR MYTHICAL PROTECTION?
      Not enough? 3 whooping cough outbreaks (US) since 2010 – 70%, 72%, and 90% were vaccinated so they wouldn’t get whooping cough. Oops – got it. How about the Canadian Flu “Paradox”? This proves that the more flu shots you give, the more flu cases and outbreaks increase. How about S Korea? They had a small chicken pox problem. In several steps, they increased their “vax compliance rates”. At EVERY increase in vaccination, the chicken pox disease incidents/outbreaks increased. EVERY TIME – and NOW they may have the highest vax rate in the world for an infectious disease – 95%! And their chicken pox is record breaking high. Hmmm

      The REALLY interesting part is that 95% – because it AGAIN proves that asininity of that “science free” theory called “herd immunity”. Forget that nothing similar is present in any of nature, anywhere – this “theory” (marketing point?) was just proven TO NOT WORK in S Korea, just like it didn’t work with 97% vax rates in Britain with the smallpox vaccine, nor in Prussia with it’s virtual 100% vax compliance – if you resisted in your army time you were held down and shot up to 10 X/arm!!! DIDN’T CAUSE ANY HERD IMMUNITY then either, did it.

      Herd immunity – a FAILED, science and fact free fiction.

      2nd thing a vax must do is prevent disease transmission – but you must also PROVE (no studies) that almost all diseases and outbreaks are caused by the unvaccinated. You can’t, because it doesn’t happen that way. So Disney Measles Fantasy storyline was a couple weeks of “we don’t know who originated the outbreak, but they must have been unvaccinated…” Wrong – if you don’t know who – you have NO IDEA of their vax history, so shut up and quit lying about it. NOW they state a family of 7 Philipino unvaccinated people caused it – and you think/pretend – slam dunk. Hold on.

      What did the Reverse Transcriptase Polymerase Chain Reaction testing show? Was this outbreak caused by the vaccine viral strain? Because we have proof that this does happen – and if the vax viral strain CAUSED this outbreak – pure statistics would prove that increasing that viral strain through vaccination can not avoid causing increased disease cases and outbreaks. If on the other hand, the RTPCR tests showed that one of the TWENTY ONE WILD MEASLES STRAINS were the cause – then vaccinations can do ZERO to prevent that, since they are absolutely ineffective against protecting against those strains.

      Further, we KNOW that from wks 2-4 your live vax strains are going to be shedding by the millions – to the point that you could kill a chemo patient or someone with a compromised immune system. So the ONLY way to guarantee viruses is through being sick or being vaccinated. A healthy, unvaccinated person is less likely to have viruses than a vaccinated person. FAIL

      3rd thing – a vax must be safe. If you think shoving an infectious disease pathogen plus some toxic chemicals, some poisonous heavy metals, and monkey chunks, dog parts, calf pieces, and aborted baby fetus tissues is good for you, have at it. Oh, and let’s not forget GMO yeast and HPV vaccines. By the way the Gardasil/HPV shots are not only totally worthless, but are causing tens of thousands of VERY serious life-long health issues. Sometimes they are short like all those girls that took the shot and died. At least that was quick – but there are thousands of girls that get dizzy, fall over from dizziness, have MS symptoms – there’s that 16 yr old in Australia who went into menopause from the Gardasil shot – multiple girls in the US whose uterus is ruined and they are sterile now. All for a totally unnecessary shot.

      Then there is the safety of the flu shots – one of the last to have the mercury or so we are told. There was that 5-yr old girl in Las Vegas last year – got a flu shot and died OF THAT INFLUENZA STRAIN 2 DAYS LATER. Pretty safe there. We know that in the 80s that drug pushers were losing lawsuit after lawsuit because people PROVED that their vaccines caused death and damages to their loved ones. PROVEN. So they went to Reagan and said – we aren’t going to make vaccines unless you give us “immunity from tort prosecution for our product’s damage liability” and Ronnie said “okey dokey, boys” Then they set up the VAERS (vaccine adverse event reporting system) and the VICP – Vaccine Injury Compensation Program – which has since paid out over THREE BILLION $$$$ FOR PROVEN VACCINE DAMAGES to people’s loved ones. Since you must be able to retain a lawyer and medical experts for 3-7 years – not all the valid cases were paid out as those people had to stop their suits for financial reasons. SO VACCINES CAN AND DO CAUSE DAMAGES and this is not validly deniable.

      You are going to argue that it’s few and far between and thus justifies your turning YOURSELF into a vaccine slave along with everyone else – but i deny that you have any such right – or that anyone does. My state does NOT have the right to practice medicine without a license, and i have no MD and thus nobody can practice medicine upon my body – and even then they must give full disclosure and you have the right to refuse treatments.

      i can equally argue that drug pusher assertions that everyone is going to get every disease for which they aren’t vaccinated for AND they are going to have the worst end of the spectrum of those diseases. That is the implication of your VAXASSINATION THEOLOGY and like all faith based systems – it lacks evidence.

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  20. For a stunning history of the polio vaccine and the political conditions surrounding it, everyone should read Dr. Mary’s Monkey by Edward Haslam.

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  21. In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77)

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    1. In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77)

      There’s nothing like a cut and paste from the Health (De-) Ranger that says “research!”

      Unfortunately, there is no April 4, 1977, issue of Science. Indeed, Mikey seems to have been plagiarizing one K.R. Sutter. The closest match is here. Yes, I have both pages, and no, the quote/paraphrase appears nowhere.

      But the Salk–Sabin rivalry is old news. When OPV becomes more risky (read: successful) than the wild disease, countries switch to IPV. A 38-year-old quarrel is of no relevance.

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      1. Heh. That last link actually provides the answer, but the passing around of this error as an article of faith comprises a truly impressive display of playing Telephone among the Not Sherson! autodidacts.

        The rest is left as an exercise for the reader, but they seem to have beaten a hasty exit or something

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  24. “When was the last time you saw a Rolls Royce commercial? Never. They don’t advertise. They don’t have to.”

    The last time? The 2015 Rolls Royce ad campaign would be the last time. You should maybe use google before you make a statement so easily debunked.

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  25. Please provide Independent scientific evidence which can prove that disease reduction in any part of the world, at any point in history was attributable to inoculation of populations?

    Where are smallpox and rinderpest, again?

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    1. Still around. You want a closer look. Go ask for the vaccine.

      Woman contracts smallpox from recently vaccinated man
      http://vaccinenewsdaily.com/stories/510531088-woman-contracts-smallpox-from-recently-vaccinated-man

      -Toddler survives smallpox vaccine reaction
      http://www.reuters(dot)com/article/2007/05/18/us-smallpox-boy-idUSN1744524120070518

      http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=353655#References
      Deaths Attributable to Smallpox Vaccination, 1959 to 1966, and 1968
      site-iconjama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx
      ABSTRACT | REFERENCES

      There were 68 deaths in the United States from complications of smallpox vaccination in the nine years 1959 to 1966, and 1968; 19 were associated with vaccinia necrosum, 36 were caused by postvaccinial encephalitis, 12 by eczema vaccinatum, and 1 by Stevens-Johnson syndrome. Of the 68 who died, 24 were infants, although only 12% of all primary vaccinations are given to this age group. All of the deaths from eczema vaccinatum were in children who were not vaccinated themselves, but acquired vaccinia from a sibling, playmate, or parent. This suggests that reduction of the number of deaths from eczema vaccinatum cannot be established by screening vaccinees alone. Reducing the number of primary vaccinations performed would lower the risks of acquiring eczema vaccinatum and postvaccinial encephalitis.

      -Vaccinia Virus Infection After Sexual Contact with a Military Smallpox Vaccinee — Washington, 2010
      Weekly:
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih(dot)gov/pubmed/?term=Vaccinia+Virus+Infection+After+Sexual+Contact+with+a+Military+Smallpox+Vaccinee+—+Washington%2C+2010 July 2, 2010 / 59(25);773-775

      -Secondary and Tertiary Transmission of Vaccinia Virus After Sexual Contact with a Smallpox Vaccinee — San Diego, California, 2012
      Weekly March 1, 2013 / 62(08);145-147
      http://www.cdc(dot)gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6208a2.htm.

      -Smallpox was declared eradicated, yet still infects humans today. By Viera Scheibner, PhD
      http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/04/02/smallpox-declared-eradicated-while-still-alive-and-well-by-viera-scheibner-phd/

      -Smallpox: Bringing a Dead Disease Back to Life
      http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/smallpox/smallpox-bringing-a-dead-disease-back-to-life/

      -THE SMALLPOX VACCINE RACKET 1
      http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html
      research and articles on smallpox going back to the 1880’s.

      Smallpox vaccine like Polio was halted in the US because it caused the very disease it was suppose to eliminate. Smallpox is labeled under a new name-monkeypox. Smallpox cases rose when mass vaccination was occurring. All disease were brought under control as a result of modern sanitation:
      “The questionable contribution of medical measures to the decline of mortality in the United States in the twentieth century“. McKinlay JB, McKinlay SM, Milbank Mem Fund Q Health Soc. 1977 Summer; 55(3): 405-28. http://www.columbia.edu/itc/hs/pubhealth/rosner/g8965/client_edit/readings/week_2/mckinlay.pdf.
      -How Plumbing (Not Vaccines) Eradicated Disease:http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/08/how-plumbing-not-vaccines-eradicated-disease/

      Smallpox was eliminated because the vaccine was stopped and living conditions of people in the Western world had improved. There are numerous cases of military personnel being infected by the vaccine and thus passing the virus to others.

      -George W. Bush has said of smallpox vaccination: “One of my concerns if we were to have universal vaccination, some might lose their life.” ~The Times (in London), November 09, 2001.

      – For each million people vaccinated with the smallpox vaccine, as many as 250 could die, according to the American Medical Association. Multiply 250 times 285 (millions of Americans) and the possible deaths from universal smallpox vaccination could equal 71,250. ~ Journal of the American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, Vol. 281, No. 22, p. 2132.

      -“Right now the risk of getting the vaccine is higher than the benefit. You could get a secondary infection, a full-blown systemic infection.” ~Marie Rau, Panhandle Health District nurse, quoted by The Spokesman-Review, November 20, 2001.

      -CDC director Jeffrey Koplan has admitted that universal smallpox vaccination could unleash a significant number of side-effects. He said that because many parts of our population do not have a “robust immune system,” a fair number of people could have serious reactions. ~Koplan speaking on the PBS special “Bioterror Propaganda” aired by WETA, November 14, 2001.

      -If the entire nation were to receive a smallpox vaccine, several thousand people would likely develop encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain. ~Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

      -“Researchers have been reluctant to recommend a new vaccination program which would use the smallpox vaccine for the local population because the vaccine can cause disease and death in persons with inadequate immune systems.” ~Science, Vol. 277, July 18, 1997, pp. 312-13.

      -Routine smallpox vaccination in the United States ended in 1972. Officials are hesitant to resume the immunizations because the vaccine is the most reactive of all and has been linked to serious side effects, including death. ~ Reuters, November 29, 2001.

      -By the 1920s, several British medical researchers documented that smallpox was not only more common among the VACCINATED, but that the DEATH RATE from smallpox was actually higher among those who had been vaccinated. This indicates that the vaccine was ineffective and predisposed vaccinated persons to more lethal disease. ~Vaccination, Dr. Viera Scheibner, Australia, 1993, pp. 205-220.

      – Getting a vaccination does not guarantee immunity. ~CDC, January 28, 1994.

      – By 1987, scientific evidence indicated that the World Health Organization’s 13-year global smallpox vaccination campaign may have awakened dormant HIV infection in many vaccines. ~Times (in London) May 11, 1987.

      -Some of the new smallpox vaccine doses will be created with animal substrate. Because the vaccine will incorporate vaccinia, the cowpox virus, many wonder about possible mad-cow contamination. Fifty-five million doses of the new vaccine will be created using a cell line dating back to 1966 and cultured from the lung tissues of an aborted human fetus. ~World Net Daily, December 4, 2001.

      – The new smallpox vaccine will be genetically engineered. Many scientists believe that genetically engineered vaccines may be responsible for the global epidemic of auto-immune disease and neurological dysfunction. ~American College of Rheumatology, annual meeting, Nov. 8-12, 1998. Merck’s genetically engineered hepatitis B vaccine, Recombivax HB, is a classic example. According to Dr. Bonnie Dunbar of Baylor College of Medicine, many thousands of reported adverse reactions to the hepatitis B vaccine include: chronic fatigue, neurological disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and MS-like disease.

      *rinderpest. Closely related to measles but not measles. Some call it the bovine measles. Rinderpest is not known to infect humans, but its impact on cattle and other animals has had a tremendous impact on human livelihoods and food security, due to its ability to wipe out entire herds of cattle in a matter of days. There is a THEORY that it’s the origins of measles but no research has panned out because the timeline goes back over 10,000 years. Rinderpest is said to be eradicated but nothing is eradicated sitting in a test tube at U.S. Department of Agriculture.

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  26. Woman in Seattle who died from pneumonia and the measles virus was discovered when she was autopsied: The woman who died was not among the unvaccinated. On the contrary, she not only had been vaccinated, but reportedly was tested and found to have a protective antibody titer.

    “Reportedly”? By whom?

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    2. Hardly invasive. Just not going to do your work for you. The information is online and if you were genuinely interested in the information rather than being the second string to come after me, you’d find that info in less than 3 minutes if you’re a halfway decent researcher. But than again, that’s not your purpose here is it. You’ve already showed your cards buy playing the “I’m not going to accept any information as valid. I will reject any information given to me just because that’ my job to do so. It’s an old troll tactic I’ve run into before. The questions you pose will be answered as a courtesy because that’s what information exchange is about. Even though that’s not what you’re about. If this floats your boat and gets you through the day and gets you your ten cents a comment, so be it. Just as long as everyone knows where we stand and what the game plan is.

      Oh, please don’t do the troll denial discourse. It won’t work because you’re already made your play.

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      1. Hardly invasive.

        No, I said evasive.

        Just not going to do your work for you. The information is online and if you were genuinely interested in the information rather than being the second string to come after me, you’d find that info in less than 3 minutes if you’re a halfway decent researcher.

        See above. I will take this as wholesale surrender.

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        I have a big day tomorrow and it’s late in my neck of the woods so you can continue your troll attacks tomorrow or tonight. Like I said, what ever floats your boat.

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      2. You have a problem with the way the story is written this is a solution for you: write the editors of Medpage

        In other words, the answer to my question is no, you don’t even understand it in the first place.

        The promptness of your collapse when called upon to think rather than copy and paste walls of text is truly impresssive.

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  28. What an excellent post! i cannot believe how many people make the statement for the ‘evidence based medicine’ when it’s all skewed data funded by the very vaccine manufacturers. #CDCwhistleblower doesn’t any of these people know what means?!! Well, they can all happily get their flu shots, and when they could realize what a guinea pig they were, they actually won’t even realize it because Alzheimers or Parkinsons will take over their brain. #TEAMCHOICE all the way!

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